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    I’m doing a website design for almost 8 years right now.
    I can’t say I’m real 100% web designer I guess I’m something between
    Web Designer and Web Developer.
    It seems to me number of jobs for Web Designers significantly reduced comparing to 8-9 years ago. It takes longer to find a full time position for a Web Designer like in my case last time I think it took 3 month to find this job which is not so bad. Currently I’m working in a small ISP company my position called Web Designer but I have much more responsibilities then I would like to have. That includes:
    Website Design
    Meeting with customers
    Writing website estimates
    Sometimes making printing materials for the company
    Graphic Design
    Occasional Programming
    Customer support over the phone (related to ISP dialup/DSL Billing questions)

    So I work 8 hours a day and then go home and doing freelance just don’t get paid enough so I have to do it. Don’t give me wrong I’m not complaining money is good with freelance especially when somebody pays cash. It’s just too much work sometimes. No time for personal life at all.
    I feel like maybe I should enhance my programming skills and go more toward programming it’s seems to me there are more Programming jobs over there and it gets paid much more better.

    What do you think?

    Best, DS
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    I’m doing a website design for almost 8 years right now.

    ...wow. That better be one kick-ass website when you finally finish it. WHAT??? I kid!

    Developers definitely tend to make more money than designers. With the exception of those rare rock-star designers who bill out at $200 an hour. I don't know where you live, but a decent web designer with 8 years experience who can also pinch hit with some programming should be making somewhere in the $60 to $80 thousand ballpark--depending on which part of the country they're based in.

    A developer with similar experience could probably be making twice as much.

    Bam!
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    You probably right but I leave in Oregon, Eugene
    it's small town but I like it a lot less stress easy to get arround.
    For sure I can get better pay places like Portland OR Seattle but
    everything is more expansive there from housing to the stuff you buy every day.
    Plus I hate traffic.

    Best, DS
    • CommentAuthorljromanoff
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2006
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    Unfortunately if you want to become more of a design specialist and do less general work as you are now doing you are going to have to work for a larger agency or corporation - which means either telecommuting or moving to a larger city. I am actually having the opposite problem lately in that most of the work I am doing is too rigidly defined.
    • CommentAuthorPettyRider
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2006
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    I just got my first gig at $30k, developing + designing. It's not huge, and I may be worth more than that, but it's a great start for a 20-year-old who didn't go to college. I did freelancing for a year and barely squeaked out $12k. In some markets, it's just better to be part of a herd. I ultimately would like to get to full freelancing, or work more from home with this firm.
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    Hey PettyRider!

    Good for you. That's about how much I'm making on my full time job plus whatever I'm making as freelancer.
    $30K for 20 years old is very good. I'm 31 and having a kid on a way so I have more responsibilities if you know what I mean.
    As I said I leave in small but beautiful town it's hard to find any jobs here specially as web designer. Most of the freelance I do outside the town I leave in.

    Best, DS
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