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    • CommentAuthorArun
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2005
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      CommentAuthorSpookyET
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2005
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    What would be more useful is a step by step tutorial on how to build an AJAX-based web component or small application. Also, an article that tells where and where not AJAX should be used, common mistakes, etc.
    • CommentAuthorArun
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2005
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    Hi spookyet

    I am also learning stage of AJAX ..
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      CommentAuthorSpookyET
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2005
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    We all are. Like Flash, or any other tool, it must learned to be used properly.
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      CommentAuthornifkin
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2005
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    all my AJAX tutorial bookmarks on del.icio.us

    also potentially of use: Microformats.org - AHAH (Asynchronous HTML and HTTP)

    Essentially the same idea as AJAX, but rather than receiving XML that then has to be parsed in JS to figure out what's going on you return formatted HTML that can just get chucked into part of your page.
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      CommentAuthormoondoggie
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2005
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    SpookyET - here's a site in the process of compiling all sorts of AJAX mistakes.
    • CommentAuthorArun
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2005
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    • CommentAuthorArun
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2006
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    Maybe somenone could suggest an app they'd like to see built? It would be kind of nice to take a look at different approaches.

    Personally, I have tried ajax with pretty much everything I put on a site, but haven't really found it to be all that useful except for these two cases, where

    a) a client wants to reorder the links in the menu bar using drag-and-drop
    b) displayed newsfeeds need to be updated periodically

    Using ajax can provide a good user experience, but only (in my opinion) if disabling JavaScript doesn't completely cripple the site.
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      CommentAuthorJohnRiv
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2006
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    Using ajax can provide a good user experience, but only (in my opinion) if disabling JavaScript doesn't completely cripple the site.


    Couldn't agree with you more. Hijax (progressive enhancement with Ajax) is the way to go.
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      CommentAuthorfake
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2006
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    I've used Prototype to bridge between the code and the end document. It's incredibly easy if you have basic knowlege of any programming language. You can figure out how to do most things naturally... Though Prototye may be a bit too heavy for some projects maybe.
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    Is Hijax a buzzword for unobtrusive JavaScript? What I mean is, using normal links and such, and referring to them from an external .js file via id or class?
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    There must be a ton of these out already, but I thought I'd open up the tutorial part of this topic with an example of menu reordering. http://cs.joensuu.fi/~kpatila/ajax.php

    The sample requires 6 lines of php, but you should be able to figure it out, or if not, I'll post it later. The source code should be pretty straight-forward, so this isn't one of those tutorials where one would actually teach others how to do something...
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      CommentAuthorJohnRiv
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2006
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    Hijax technique, straight from Jeremy Keith's article I linked to:
    1. First, build an old-fashioned website that uses hyperlinks and forms to pass information to the server. The server returns whole new pages with each request.
    2. Now, use JavaScript to intercept those links and form submissions and pass the information via XMLHttpRequest instead. You can then select which parts of the page need to be updated instead of updating the whole page.


    And yes, the JavaScript should be unobtrusive.
    • CommentAuthorcalvinc
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2006
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    Does anyone know some good books for learning ajax?

    I know how to program in java c# and stuff . . hope that helps with the javascript part :p
    currently learning php and asp.net
    know most of the basics of css, except layout/floating part i need to focus more.
    no experience with xml :S

    I went to the bookstore today, saw a couple books: ajax by example . . or oreile ajax, wrox pro ajax, and one called pragmatic ajax.

    anyone got recommendation, I want something very practical, a bit theorem is good . . but most important are lots of real life examples
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      CommentAuthorbenjwalker
    • CommentTimeJan 6th 2007
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    I second that... any good resources for n00bs who just know a little javascript?
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