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    A potential client has been using Joomla to manage previous versions of their site and had also planned on using it with the next one. From what I've gathered, developing and customizing Joomla can be a bit of a pain.

    As the CMS question is still open for discussion, I'd like to ask if anyone could give me some pointers on whether or not it's worthwhile to stick with Joomla or maybe just go for Expression Engine or MT? I'll most likely be needing multiple blogs on the same site, so EE seems like a good choice at the moment.
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    I personally don't like Joomla. Most community contribuations are buggy and doesn't correctly.
    Plus I don't like the template system they use.
    Well if you don't mind to pay for something I will go EE since they have bunch of modules available developed by them that actually works. Template system is nice and you got actual support.
    P.S MT is very good selection as well. Specailly new version of MT4 I said WOW when i installed it very impressive.
    Down side even it's pretty stable it's still a Beta the only problem that I have it seems most of the community plugins doesn't work there due that MT core is changed so much the new feature I really like they added conditional statements to the templates.

    Best, DS
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    Joomla has a ton of potential for managing large-scale sites, but I've begun to be frustrated with how far behind the curve it is (compared to EE, Wordpress) when it comes to clean code, web standards, bloat, and so on. The way the 'categories' and 'sections' is broken down is not entirely intuitive, neither is the menu manager. Also, alot of the components & plugins feature extremely junky table-based code mingled in with the php -- tough to customize.

    I'm holding out for Joomla's next major upgrade, but if it's not up to par with the others, might abandon it.
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    Joomla 1.5RC1, which I tried out last night, didn't get my hopes up, either. Lots and lots of tables still, but at least it validates as XHTML 1.0 transitional.
    • CommentAuthoremecks
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2008
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    drupal is the one I would go with, I'm currently
    co-ordinating a site build for a client
    who currently uses Joomla.

    What I particularly like about Drupal over Joomla is that you can design pretty much
    whatever you want and tie it into Drupal without any tables, which is simply not
    possible using Joomla. Another thing of real benefit is the SEO effort is massively
    simplified by some of Drupal's core concepts - I'll let you figure that one out yourselves
    though, can't give away every secret ;)
    • CommentAuthorneemtree
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
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    Another plug for Drupal. It would be great if more designers who evaluated it could share their experiences with the core developers and Drupal community.
    • CommentAuthoremecks
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
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    @neemtree

    I have posted on the drupal forums too :)
    • CommentAuthorakalsha
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008
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    I think Wordpress can do most everything that Joomla can. Joomla seems too big and bloated.
    • CommentAuthorvuurvosje
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008 edited
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    If you want to invest in a CMS for the long term, you may choose Typo3.

    Recently I read in a magazine that in the php open source market there are 2 CMS's in the segment "heavy CMS" and these are Typo3 and EzPublish. In the middle segment are CMS's like drupal and joomla and in the segment "simple CMS" are CMS's like wordpress and textpattern.

    So the question is what you need for the long term and if you are a professional webdesigner or do webdesign as a hobby.

    Typo3 has over 1800 extensions and can fulfill most needs for functionality, so if you expect that you will need more functions in the long term Typo3 might be the right option. Another advantage of Typo3 is that you can host multiple website in 1 CMS, so you don't have to install the CMS for each website.

    For a examples of Typo3 websites check out our website: http://www.weblicity.nl/portfolio/
    Or check out the cms showcase site: http://www.cmsshowcase.com/category/typo3/

    Cheers, vuurvos
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    Hi there,

    Having had experience of using both joomla and drupal cms (as well as interspire a while ago) there are a number of considerations to take into account:

    What is the technical capability oif the client? - none = joomla, - low - moderate = joomla, - moderate to high = Drupal
    How much training will you be giving? Joomla is far simple for a user to learn and is well documented
    How much flexibility will the client in expansion - joomla has hundreds of well supported modules - Drupal has hundreds of technical modules that will need a lot of modifications to make them work correctly.
    What level of SEO will the site need? - joomla requires special paid for modules to get anywhere - and a lot of attention - Drupal will seo much easier.
    What level of compliance will the site require? Templates in Drupal are far better at being made compliant. Joomla tends to spit out a lot of junk from its engine.

    Word of thumb is thus - Joomla you get everything configured and installed - straight off the bat, Drupal - you must build and configure everything around the core.

    Interspire is a good lowl evel CMS that will plug into a well written template - its a bit fiddly but there is nowhere near the amount of expansion available.

    Enjoy
    sticky
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    Joomla is far simple for a user to learn and is well documented.

    This is not true documentation is limited as any other open source at this point.
    For v.1.5 pretty much there is no any documentation.

    joomla has hundreds of well supported modules
    Yes it does. Thought most of them have to many bugs to use them in a first place so unless you familiar with developing modules under Joomla good luck with that.

    Cheers, DS
    • CommentAuthorJack
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
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    as far as I know, joomla is easier for a beginner, or someone who doesn't want to get too much into the internals of the cms. As a developer, it's just way too much bloat.

    I'd recommend drupal for small projects because of its simplicity and ease of customization. If you need something heavy duty, typo3 would be better.

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