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AHHHH :-(
and his site is in nested table hell. -
$6 per hour! *faints*
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CommentAuthoradjustafresh
- CommentTimeJul 12th 2006
You get what you pay for. -
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*fetches blowtorch and pliers*
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where is the css?? i thought this was a css forum
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Arun, you are going to have to do way better than this if you expect to get any work around here.
Think about it, you are posting on a forum where its members and probably most viewers create and expect to see quality standards based work.
Your work is not up to our standards,
What you should do is try to learn the right way to do things, and polish your portfolio…
mringlein is right, your main site is table based… That and the fact that you are willing to sell yourself cheap, just throws red flags everywhere… No one with a right set of mind will give you any work.
Sorry dude, the truth hurts.
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regards to your country and your people however
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hahah, yeah
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Kmg don’t blame the Country!!! Blame me, that is the right way and
I can say like ""blaming is ""regarding to your country and your people however"""" And you peoples can do just blaming others.... don’t be selfish and cruel . ------- This is for only (KMG). I feel he doesn’t have any manners.
Alex --
I just inform to all I can work form $6 and I show my works thru my link which I mentioned If clients interested my works they can contact me. And I never think that my portfolio is big matter thanks for your information.
And I am working for clients not for me. That is why i didn't make my site better... if you peoples go thru with this link you peoples can view my works, if it looks very ugly don’t contact me…
Also I am cutting my old messages. because I think this form is not for marketing
Sorry for your time... and thanks Alex (droppyale)...... -
Arun,
My intention was to not "blame the Country or you" nor offend you in anyway. My point was to say I'm very sorry to what happened in BOMBAY -
Now, this is one pointless topic. I thought this forum was supposted to help each other not look for clients.
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Arun,
I feel pity for the unpolite answers you received just for making a wrong post, but I guess manners are beyond a Css guru (?) understanding.
Shame on you CSS guys... I can feel a xenophobic mocking feeling around. -
Oh!!!
KmG
Why you apologies me!! You have any connection with Bombai matter ???.. ahahahaha.. (Just kidding) its okay. I feel that you blame my country and I am very sorry for my msgs.. if you hurt.
Leave it ….
Anyway as “Gustavs “ says this is not looking for clients but we can make clients on these ways tooo haha -
The way you treat yourself reflects on how you treat others.
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CommentAuthoradjustafresh
- CommentTimeJul 12th 2006
MCDXI feel pity for the unpolite answers you received...
Do you feel sorry for the rest of the freelancers who are trying to make a living off of their work? When people see that they can get a web developer for $6 an hour (if it's crap code, the average client can't tell - they don't "view souce") - it devalues the developers who are charging $50 an hour. $50/hour is a reasonable starting price (and a livable wage) for a designer/developer who does their job correctly.
Do you think someone would be willing to pay $50 when they think they can get their site done for $6?
As I said...you get what you pay for. -
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Not every webdesigner has more than 3 years experience however or is less talented and they still went to earn some money, so they keep low prices and isn't that what the lowbudget car seller is looking for? To be short the market has different segments and the cssbeauty members are probably in the top segment and Arun in the low segment with less prestigious clients, not?
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adjustafresh,
I recommend you to read well my post this time.
I was talking about politness, not wages and stuff forcrissake! For me is very clear:
1) This is not a "job finder" forum
2) "I feel pity for the unpolite answers you received just for making a wrong post" Do you read "unpolite" or "wrong post" this time?
3) I recommend you to open a forum about wages so you can post the info there.
Thank you, peace. -
The clashes of prices is a new reality of the market as India and China are entering a job market that North America and Europe used to have for themselves... one day the prices and everything else will balance themselves out, but it's going to be rough for the current industry model to deal with the effects.
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vuurvos,
clap clap clap!!!
someone got a point here! thank you Mr. vuurvos, very intelligent point of view. -
fake, true, but a designer can start writing content instead of requesting the client to provide the content. That way, you have home-field language advantage. Indians and Chinese, with the exceptions of those that speak and write English very well, can only "design".
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I completely agree with adjustafresh.
I think thats all there is to say. -
@ SpookyET
I hope you're right because I've only been steadily employed for 2 years now and I'd like to live the easy life for a while ;) -
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CommentAuthoradjustafresh
- CommentTimeJul 12th 2006
MCDX
Calm down. Who's being rude here now? Perhaps the fact that English is not your primary language cripples your ability to infer tone. Perhaps it also reduces your ability to communicate clearly.
Don't start throwing stones and then say "peace" and expect people to ignore your insolence.
vuurvos
To your car analogy. A used 1998 Toyota Camry in good condition with approximately 100K miles on it will sell for roughly the same price (give or take a couple hundred bucks) no matter what dealer you're buying it from. The cost of the vehicle is determined by the market and the quality of the car. If I charge $50 for a car that's worth $5000 1. I'm not a very good business person and 2. People will immediately wonder what's wrong with the car.
I see the point about building a client list and improving skills, but at $6 an hour Arun's selling himself short - even in India, even with 100% table-based layouts. -
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This is my last comment on this topic ;). I dont wanna give my opinion on prices, but I only observe the market and determine that there are companies that make (very ugly!) websites for very low prices. Like this company (http://www.laarink.nl/CMS/index.php?pages_id=12) makes a site for 125 EURO!
You probably have to deal with it. Here in Holland we have Aldi supermaket which is very cheap and dirty and Albert Heyn which is more expensive and luxuous, I suggest every market has this "problem", not? Now you will say, you spoil the market by selling products for too low prices, I dunno how other markets deal with this? But I do know that some companies for example give their software away for free (open source), while Bill Gates is posting on forums that the market is being spoiled, cause everybody is buying Linux! -
You got to love the classic Output Imageready Slices as HTML feel
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adjustafresh,
Almighty God, I deserve to be punished for my intervention on this forum... sorry.
I understand every word you write, and I am sure you understood the point in what I wrote. See if you get this: No me interesa, tengo mucho trabajo como para detenerme en comentarios de aquellos que creen que por vivir en EEUU se creen Dios.
I think you voted Bush, move on!
insolence again, peace. -
Please lets keep politics, religion, race out of this forum… and please write in English.
Regarding the comments made initially, well he had it coming, Arun has been a member for a while, and if he doesnt’ understand what the forum and it’s members are all about, then that’s his fault.
MCDX Yo vivo en EEUU y no me creo mejor que nadie, porfavor no vuelvas a escribir en español, en este forum se habla solo Ingles. Gracias.
<blockquote>Perhaps the fact that English is not your primary language cripples your ability to infer tone. Perhaps it also reduces your ability to communicate clearly.</blockquote>
<blockquote>I think you voted Bush, move on!</blockquote>Both comments were out of line.
I will now close this thread, again, lets keep the forum clean.
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